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#103549 - 01/07/16 12:57 PM Re: Leap Frog (Voltmace #25) [Re: StarshipUK]  
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Could you also ask him about the mysterious Cabel #17 "Twist"? amigan.1emu.net only mentions it as "Cabel: Game #17 (Twist) is not listed." without any comments about the game itself, whether it's unique or not.

#103595 - 01/11/16 03:29 PM Re: Leap Frog (Voltmace #25) [Re: ssj]  
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Originally Posted By ssj
I know James, he is a nice guy strange that he didn't answer you. He can't dump Voltmace carts though so perhaps that was the issue, it was me who provided Munch & Crunch and some of the other undumped carts to his website (all dumped by Team Europe).

I've mailed him, he says he answered he doesn't have any equipment, so he couldn't help with dumping (and didn't knew anyone who could). He also said most of the releases chart is a plain guesswork, only the "Archived Cartridges" section is correct, so, theoretically, all the carts should be verified and dumped, if possible. I don't see any Cabel carts in the "Archived" section, so there's a chance some unique ones could be misdetected as common releases. And he has no idea about the game released as Cabel #17 (Twist) -- on the cover there are 2 guys who look like fighters, but the only fighting game is Boxing and Cabel has it as #11, so the Twist is something else. Also looks like a sports game (since there's a green field and a coach), but Soccer is Cabel #24 and Golf is Cabel #21, so, no easy guess here as well smile

Cabel releases list, if someone needs it:
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#103755 - 01/22/16 12:22 AM Re: Leap Frog (Voltmace #25) [Re: F1ReB4LL]  
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Originally Posted By F1ReB4LL
Originally Posted By ssj
I know James, he is a nice guy strange that he didn't answer you. He can't dump Voltmace carts though so perhaps that was the issue, it was me who provided Munch & Crunch and some of the other undumped carts to his website (all dumped by Team Europe).

I've mailed him, he says he answered he doesn't have any equipment, so he couldn't help with dumping (and didn't knew anyone who could).


I never said he didn't answer. I said what you have confirmed, that he did not seem too helpful. The reply just came across like he was not too bothered and just seemed odd to me on the page it says "If you have any of these games, or information about them, please email us." so I did and then seemed like it was going to be too much effort for me to help out with this. Quite the opposite of the replies I got to the post on here which have been enthusiastic to finally get this dumped.

Like I said I am sure he is a nice guy and I like that reference site, as there is not too many for these systems and games.

It would be good to also get those two Cabel carts checked out. The only way to find out and check for differences would be to dump all the carts. As mentioned at: http://www.old-computers.com/magazine/view.asp?r=6&a=15 there may have also been a defender type game prototype that never went into production. Perhaps it was originally destined to be one of those many missing numbers carts for the Database.

#103761 - 01/22/16 08:37 PM Re: Leap Frog (Voltmace #25) [Re: StarshipUK]  
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#103762 - 01/22/16 09:02 PM Re: Leap Frog (Voltmace #25) [Re: StarshipUK]  
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Code:
00000FC0  4C 45 41 50 46 52 4F 47 2E 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  LEAPFROG........
00000FD0  43 4F 50 59 52 49 47 48 54 00 31 39 38 32 00 00  COPYRIGHT.1982..
00000FE0  56 4F 4C 54 4D 41 43 45 00 4C 54 44 2E 00 00 00  VOLTMACE.LTD....
00000FF0  30 34 00 4E 4F 56 00 38 32 00 00 52 45 56 00 41  04.NOV.82..REV.A


interestingly it has a 'Rev A' string in the ROM at the end, I don't know if that means it's the first release, or there's a version without that out there too.

doesn't really run that well in MAME right now, probably very fussy about some timings that we're not accurate enough with.


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#103763 - 01/22/16 11:18 PM Re: Leap Frog (Voltmace #25) [Re: StarshipUK]  
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Probably best to compare with Munch & Crunch as Derek Andrews wrote both those games as mentioned at: http://www.old-computers.com/magazine/view.asp?r=6&a=15

If that also says REV A I am guessing they are both first releases. I very much doubt different versions were made as so few carts seem to exist.

#103764 - 01/22/16 11:41 PM Re: Leap Frog (Voltmace #25) [Re: StarshipUK]  
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the other game doesn't have a little block like this, probably didn't have room in the rom for one, every byte was precious.

#103765 - 01/23/16 12:29 AM Re: Leap Frog (Voltmace #25) [Re: Haze]  
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Originally Posted By Haze
doesn't really run that well in MAME right now, probably very fussy about some timings that we're not accurate enough with.

Doesn't run properly in WinArcadia as well, flickering.

#103767 - 01/23/16 10:16 AM Re: Leap Frog (Voltmace #25) [Re: StarshipUK]  
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Thanks again for letting us dump these StarshipUK! Great to finally have all the unique VC4000 games dumped.

At least the confirmed ones, unfortunately Adrien Scheel never answered me about the Cabel games, guess he doesn't care much about preservation.

The MAME VC4000 driver still has several issues as there are glitches with a bunch of games, it definitely needs some work.

We are now also 2 games short on the Pyuuta carts dumping. The remaining 2 are insanely rare, but hopefully we will be able to get them eventually.

#103770 - 01/23/16 02:29 PM Re: Leap Frog (Voltmace #25) [Re: ssj]  
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Originally Posted By ssj
At least the confirmed ones, unfortunately Adrien Scheel never answered me about the Cabel games, guess he doesn't care much about preservation.

Well, answering if the game is unique or not isn't about preservation, I guess. But better to add the Twist into the "needed to be dumped" list.

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