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#11198 - 02/28/05 06:24 PM Re: Buying a new PC, any recomendations?  
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Ideal system for playing Solitare laugh Hmmm... Solitare-64 even :p

#11199 - 03/01/05 04:09 AM Re: Buying a new PC, any recomendations?  
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Solitare-64 even :p
Maybe they will model the physics of the bouncing cards better with 64-bit ...

#11200 - 03/04/05 06:03 PM Re: Buying a new PC, any recomendations?  
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Originally posted by DynaChicken:
Recommended specs ?

Athlon 64-3000 (socket 939),
1 Gbyte DDR-400,
Geforce 6600 PCI-express 256MB ram,
Nforce4 motherboard with PCI-express (socket 939)
We have very similiar tastes. A PCi-E card is a better option than an AGP card because you can buy a motherboard that can take two cards for SLI acceleration. So even if a 6600 is not as good as a 6800GT, two 6600's are better than one 6800GT, and cheapr laugh
I'd rather go for a 3400+ but maybe that's because I already have a 3000+ and have gotten used to it.
Get a gamepad. That's really important if you want to play emulated games of your old consoles.

There are a lot of games for Win XP 64-bit. Riddick 64bit anyone?


(Upgraded)My system:
Windows 2000 Advanced Server
AMD64 3000+ @ 2.3GHz (64bit Yeah!!)
1GB DDR RAM
XFX 6800GT 256mb RAM
Microsoft Sidewinder Freestyle Pro USB
10-button USB gamepad
#11201 - 03/04/05 10:13 PM Re: Buying a new PC, any recomendations?  
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How many FPS are you getting with those specs in the average ZiNc game ? It must go through the roof ! I dont want to spend so much money on a system, limiting myself to max $1000 including 17" LCD.

Actually, I figured out that I would get 6600GT since the 6600 has half the bandwidth and 8Gbyte/sec isnt cutting it anymore. In that sense a FX5950 is a much better choice.

I want x86-64 since it finally makes programming in assembler (or generating binary code) finally a bit more clean and gives a lot more options for optimizations (more registers and they actually all work the same!)

But still .. waiting for official release WinXP64 and Visual Studio 64.. system will only get cheaper .. smile

#11202 - 03/05/05 01:42 AM Re: Buying a new PC, any recomendations?  
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I really don't know. Everything's running at such a fast pace I have to keep it all vsynced to 60. Except Tekken 3 which goes from 58fps min to 80fps max. The really cool thing is that I can finally play shenmue on Chankast at full speed! laugh
Only MAME isn't as fast as I hoped it would be...

A 6600GT is a good choice as it's only $170 now, so even two are way cheaper than a geforce 6800GT. It's a good idea to wait. I couldn't be patient and got everything that was at the time on the market. Now I have a socket 754, AGP system i.e to upgrade I need to change the CPU the motherboard and the VGA card. So basically I've painted myself into a corner :annoyed:

Let's see, for a $1000 budget you can get:
AMD A64 3200+ s939: $191
Gigabyte 6600GT: $170
EPoX "EP-9NPA+Ultra" mobo: $132
2x 512MB DDR400 twinMOS RAM (very good timings): $130
Seagate SATA 80GB 7,200 RPM: $66
17" Samsung LCD: $279
Zalman 7000Cu CPU cooler: $40
Zalman VF-700Cu VGA cooler: $44
A case I bought: $50
TOTAL: $1102

A little over budget, but you can cut back on the custom cooling I guess laugh


(Upgraded)My system:
Windows 2000 Advanced Server
AMD64 3000+ @ 2.3GHz (64bit Yeah!!)
1GB DDR RAM
XFX 6800GT 256mb RAM
Microsoft Sidewinder Freestyle Pro USB
10-button USB gamepad
#11203 - 03/05/05 03:12 AM Re: Buying a new PC, any recomendations?  
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Why are you running Windows 2000 Advanced Server
for a games machine?
if its not being used as a server you could get lots of memory back by disabling unwanted services etc .. with your specs mame should run full speed

#11204 - 03/06/05 02:27 AM Re: Buying a new PC, any recomendations?  
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Well my machine isn't just for gaming you know, I am not in college anymore!

I actually found a really cheap copy of W2kAS from a small company, so decided to take it. I can have my own IIS server without worrying about Microsoft's weird Licensing restrictions plus I can fully control my system. I have kept the minimum used RAM space at 180MB which is pretty good.

MAME is running games at the full speed they are expected to run, but not all games run at 60fps. Some games in MAME still run slowly because of how they are emulated. I thought with the beefy 64bit CPU I have some games would run a little faster than 10fps (like Radikal Bikers) but unfortunately it's not the case. I can run any 3D super flashy frontend I like without a performance hit though and that's good.

I was bored at work and wrote the specs for a $1500 budget dream machine. I was writing it according to the local currency where I live so here's how to convert to dollars:
1 dollar = 3.64 dirhams

There are 2 options, one for a totally new system and the other for those who already have speakers, mouse / keyboard etc.

OPTION 1:
AMD A64 3200+ 700
EPoX 9NPA+ ULTRA 480
2X 512MB DDR400 RAM 400
2X SEAGATE 80GB SATA HDD 490
SONY DVD-WRITER 360
MSI 6800GT PCI-e 1644
BLACK CASE 230
ZALMAN VF-700Cu 165
ZALMAN 7000Cu 150
120MM ThermalTake FAN 30
ZALMAN PASSIVE NORTHBRIDGE 13
FLOPPY DRIVE 25
21" P275 IBM MONITOR 575
80MM ZALMAN FAN 13
VANTEC ION 400W PSU 220

TOTAL = 5495DHS / $1509

OPTION 2:
AMD A64 3200+ 700
EPoX 9NPA+ ULTRA 480
2X 512MB DDR400 RAM 400
2X SEAGATE 80GB SATA HDD 490
SAMSUNG DVD/CD-WRITER COMBO 150
VIEWSONIC BLACK/SILVER KEYBOARD 50
PS/2 5 BUTTON MOUSE 20
CREATIVE 5.1 SPEAKERS 200
MSI 6800GT PCI-e 1644
BLACK CASE 230
ZALMAN VF-700Cu 165
ZALMAN 7000Cu 150
120MM ThermalTake FAN 30
ZALMAN PASSIVE NORTHBRIDGE 13
FLOPPY DRIVE 25
21" P275 IBM MONITOR 575
80MM ZALMAN FAN 13
VANTEC ION 400W PSU 220

TOTAL = 5555DHS / $1526 OVERBUDGET :annoyed:

Guess there's no need for all that cooling gear in option 2. The CPU fan could go, stock hsf (heatsink fan) isn't that bad for 1st use.

Here's what my machine cost at the time:

AMD A64 3000+ 690
EPoX 8KDA3J 340
2X 512MB DDR400 RAM 400
SEAGATE 80GB HDD 245
SEAGATE 40GB HDD 125
SONY DVD-WRITER 360
SONY DVD-ROM 100
XFX 6800GT AGP 1300 (USED)
BLACK CASE 230
ZALMAN VF-700Cu 165
ZALMAN 7000Cu 150
120MM ThermalTake FAN 34
ZALMAN PASSIVE NORTHBRIDGE 13
FLOPPY DRIVE 25
21" P275 IBM MONITOR 575
80MM ZALMAN FAN 13
VANTEC ION 400W PSU 200
VIEWSONIC BLACK/SILVER KEYBOARD 50
ZALMAN 5.1CH SURROUND AMP 288
TOTAL = 4753DHS / $1305

Ofcourse, I started out with a $631 system and upgraded over a period of 5 months. That's the thing about PC's never buy everything at once because:
a) it's too expensive
b)everything in it will all get outdated at once

Dyna's specs are the real world specs, the ones I mentioned are for dream pc's only laugh


(Upgraded)My system:
Windows 2000 Advanced Server
AMD64 3000+ @ 2.3GHz (64bit Yeah!!)
1GB DDR RAM
XFX 6800GT 256mb RAM
Microsoft Sidewinder Freestyle Pro USB
10-button USB gamepad
#11205 - 03/07/05 04:22 PM Re: Buying a new PC, any recomendations?  
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http://www.zophar.net/arcade.html

About half way down the page is a Radical Biker emu

Radikal Bikers Emulator Download v0.9 09/01/04 Windows From Aaron Giles of the MAME development team comes this standalone emulator. A 2GHz processor with a 64MB video card should do the trick in emulating this, otherwise too bad

<< there words not mine smile

It works to is a good emu

#11206 - 03/09/05 04:16 PM Re: Buying a new PC, any recomendations?  
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I just got my new laptop ..( New to me its actualy second hand)

I reformated etc so it now has win xp service pack 2) 2 gig cpu 1 gig ram /64 meg graphics card

Im very dissapointed..... Soul edge runs like a dog without legs

--use-sound=no option it runs at full speed but it also runs at full speed on my last laptop with that option and thats a 600 mghz / 256 ram /16 meg graphics card

any ideas? Most of the other games run with out a problem at 55-60 fps ( I say most games because I havnt copied all the games to the new hard drive yet..so im not sure if its just soul edge or not)

the video card is ATI RADEON IGP 340M

#11207 - 03/09/05 07:32 PM Re: Buying a new PC, any recomendations?  
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Quote:
Originally posted by Lost:
I just got my new laptop ..( New to me its actualy second hand)

I reformated etc so it now has win xp service pack 2) 2 gig cpu 1 gig ram /64 meg graphics card

Im very dissapointed..... Soul edge runs like a dog without legs

--use-sound=no option it runs at full speed but it also runs at full speed on my last laptop with that option and thats a 600 mghz / 256 ram /16 meg graphics card

any ideas? Most of the other games run with out a problem at 55-60 fps ( I say most games because I havnt copied all the games to the new hard drive yet..so im not sure if its just soul edge or not)

the video card is ATI RADEON IGP 340M
The sound takes a silly amount of cpu. It could probably be sped up, but it's not that interesting to do.

smf

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