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#27118 - 02/27/07 07:03 AM Re: MESS Dumping Project ? [Re: MooglyGuy]  
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FYI, this Wiki software really sucks compared to MediaWiki. Would it have killed you guys to take a cue from the MAMEdev wiki? If the issue is setting it up, I'm sure one of you could've talked to Aaron, so I'd really love some justification for not using the same software.

#27122 - 02/27/07 07:35 AM Re: MESS Dumping Project ? [Re: MooglyGuy]  
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It sucks because it doesn't use the same syntax as MediaWiki? Do you have any real problems? FYI, I like DokuWiki much more than MediaWiki. And I don't need any justification, if you don't like it don't use it.

#27124 - 02/27/07 07:53 AM Re: MESS Dumping Project ? [Re: Duke]  
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Originally Posted By Duke
It sucks because it doesn't use the same syntax as MediaWiki?


Pretty much, yes.

Originally Posted By Duke
Do you have any real problems?


Apart from the already-noted issue where it seems that neither I nor the person before me can create new pages, only edit existing ones? And the fact that the syntax is markedly more baroque? No, none at all.

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if you don't like it don't use it.


Will do.

#27125 - 02/27/07 07:55 AM Re: MESS Dumping Project ? [Re: MooglyGuy]  
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I already posted that this issue with creating new pages is fixed.

#27126 - 02/27/07 07:57 AM Re: MESS Dumping Project ? [Re: Duke]  
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Originally Posted By Duke
I already posted that this issue with creating new pages is fixed.


In that case, yes, my only issue lies with its baroque syntactical styles. I'll make an effort to try to learn it, but it's just that it's enough of a pain in the ass to have to know two different formats of Wiki markup while I'm at work, let alone a third one when I'm at home.

#27185 - 02/28/07 10:14 AM Re: MESS Dumping Project ? [Re: MooglyGuy]  
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That's a good start with the dumping project page. For some we'll need to clear up just what needs to be dumped. I know some FM Towns Marty games have been dumped and can be played in emulators, but does the entry means the real BIOS haven't been dumped? I'll try to add some more systems and more information when I get a chance.

Lately, I've been working on a list of undumped Japanese systems, with the intention of tracking some of these down with the help of Guru's Japanese contact. At least a couple of people have mentioned wanting to donate for MESS dumping, so this could be a good opportunity.

I'll start out with a list of completely undumped consoles/portables released only in Japan. In most cases, we'd probably need to find these to know how difficult dumping would be. (The 64DD is an exception, since no ones knows how to dump it, but I'll include it for completeness.)

My plan is to first run the list by the people here, in case it turns out something actually has been dumped, or something is missing. Then I can update the Wiki and send a list to Guru. Some of these have already been mentioned on the Wiki, but I've got at least a bit more information. Later, the effort can be expanded to partially dumped systems, i.e. figuring out what games still need to be dumped.

Bandai Supervision 8000 -- first cartridge-based original Japanese system, from 1979, not related to the Watara Supervision
http://darkwatcher.psxfanatics.com/console/supervision.htm

Epoch Cassette Vision -- 1981, Ian Knowles posted about having one, is it available for dumping? This was also updated as the Cassette Vision Jr. in 1983. A follow-on, the Super Cassette Vision, has been emulated.
http://darkwatcher.psxfanatics.com/console/epoch.htm

My Vision -- 1983 by Nichibutsu
http://darkwatcher.psxfanatics.com/console/myvision.htm

Casio PV-1000 -- 1983
http://darkwatcher.psxfanatics.com/console/pv1000.htm

Gakken Compact Vision (TV Boy) -- 1983
http://darkwatcher.psxfanatics.com/console/gakken.htm

Nintendo 64DD -- 1999, disk add-on for the Nintendo 64. Any idea how to dump these?
http://64dd.emedian.eu/64dd.net/modules/news/

Casio Loopy "My Seal Computer" -- 1995
http://darkwatcher.psxfanatics.com/console/loopy.htm

Pasago -- portable by Koei with carts based on famous Go tournaments, hard to find much info on this, not even sure about the year of release:
http://assemblergames.com/wiki/dogatemysnes/pmwiki.php?n=Topics.KoeiPasago
http://ultimateconsoledatabase.com/portables/pasago_go.htm

Bandai Telebiko -- obscure VHS-based system, not sure about the year:
http://ultimateconsoledatabase.com/Morinfo/bandai_telebiko.htm

#27208 - 03/01/07 02:13 AM Re: MESS Dumping Project ? [Re: ranger_lennier]  
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Dumping page is looking good. Still need to think about how to rally the supporters if something available comes up or how to get them dumped (Is the default answer send to Guru?).

http://cgi.ebay.com/BANDAI-PLAYDIA-MINT-...1QQcmdZViewItem

Bandai playdia system on ebay right now. no bids yet. Not sure how rare it is...so can't say it is worth it or not. Anyone know?




#27214 - 03/01/07 06:46 AM Re: MESS Dumping Project ? [Re: ht1848]  
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Originally Posted By ht1848
Bandai playdia system on ebay right now. no bids yet. Not sure how rare it is...so can't say it is worth it or not. Anyone know?


Games for this system are hard to find but the consoles often come up on ebay, its not worth buying without any games bundled with it imho. This is a strange case of a edutainment console for kids being turned into a hentai games machine... most of the games on it are "idol" games filled with anime schoolgirl porn. Not that is a bad thing.

It is also horribly hard to find any decent software/games for the Pippin, I wish I would of held out until a console bundled with games showed its head on eBay. The 6 cd's that came with mine are all crap (they are the ones that came bundled with the system originally 4 or 5 of them need the pippins internet connection to work and one of them is a software catalouge. Nothing playable other than some paint programme.

#27246 - 03/02/07 11:19 AM Re: MESS Dumping Project ? [Re: ht1848]  
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Originally Posted By ht1848
Dumping page is looking good. Still need to think about how to rally the supporters if something available comes up or how to get them dumped (Is the default answer send to Guru?).


Well, that's definitely an option to consider. Guru's said that he'll dump anything. Of course this involves shipping to Australia and he probably won't reverse engineer any unique hardware. I sent him a Tiger R-Zone and some games and he's not sure what to do with them (the carts use something like an epoxy block, I think).

Ideally we should have a group of volunteers in different regions for various duties, like buying things on eBay and dumping different types of hardware. I've been planning to update the Wiki over the weekend, so I'll try to get something started in this regard.

#27253 - 03/02/07 02:54 PM Re: MESS Dumping Project ? [Re: ranger_lennier]  
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Oh, cool, an R-Zone.

There's just so many stuff out there that's still not dumped..

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