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#109567 - 05/11/17 01:25 PM Re: 8bit Apples - Apple I, II, /// and GS [Re: rfka01]  
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The site What Is The Apple IIgs? put together a hard disk image of all of MECC's educational software for the Apple II that boots into a menu. Yes, Oregon Trail is included smile

I've converted it to CHD for the CFFA2 card here: https://mega.nz/#!8iRhHbwK!lcOVKK_BTo1wVvQFfRjZmPRgyulEFQisOnmrtUnXKSI

You can run it like so:

mess64 apple2ee -sl7 cffa2 -hard1 MECC.chd

Or if you want to risk some games being a bit fast:

mess64 apple2gs -sl7 cffa2 -hard1 MECC.chd

As a bonus, load times are far, far faster on the CFFA2 than even a mechanical HDD, and it blows floppies out of the water.

Last edited by R. Belmont; 05/11/17 01:28 PM.
#109577 - 05/14/17 10:32 AM Re: 8bit Apples - Apple I, II, /// and GS [Re: R. Belmont]  
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I thought I'd try the MECC.chd and it's pretty cool.

A couple of problems though, on the apple2gs for some reason the auto repeat doesn't work for the arrow keys. The arrow key repeat works fine on the apple2ee. This makes the menu really hard to navigate as you can't get to the bottom of the list without pressing down arrow over and over. I did find that the open-apple or closed-apple plus arrow keys moves by a page in the menu.

And I can't seem to get the apple2gs into the text control panel with ctrl+open apple+escape. I tried everything I could think of, but it just won't go. (I was able to get into the text control panel by holding down closed apple on booting and choosing 1 for control panel)

On the apple2ee the Word Munchers game has all kinds of horizontal glitching on the screen when you're on the word grid. I don't see the horizontal glitching when run on the apple2gs driver.

I'm finding out that I'm not very good at matching the vowel sounds in word munchers. Guess I need some remedial practice.

I'm a bit of a noob with mame and the apple drivers so sorry if these are dumb questions.


Pics of the horizontal glitch on apple2ee on ubuntu 16.04 and mame185 compiled from source:
[Linked Image]
[Linked Image]

Last edited by Golden Child; 05/14/17 03:03 PM. Reason: added pics
#109580 - 05/14/17 04:10 PM Re: 8bit Apples - Apple I, II, /// and GS [Re: rfka01]  
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The 8-bit drivers are more modern and complete than the apple2gs driver, which dates to 2005 and has pretty much just been hacked to death since then. The 8-bit drivers support raster splits in order to (not always successfully) support the French Touch demos; the IIgs driver doesn't attempt to support 8-bit raster effects because they were basically unknown in 2005. My guess is the issue with Word Munchers is that it's inadvertently causing that support to engage when it shouldn't, I'll take a look.

I'm writing a new IIgs driver when I have time, which isn't often. It emulates the IIgs at a lower level than any existing emulator, and so progress is slower than I want it to be, but it's IMO necessary to do it that way.

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