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Question: changing years on systems release.

Posted By: That70sguy

Question: changing years on systems release. - 07/27/20 02:55 PM

I don't know if this question has been answered before, but some of the systems under years, 19??, 197? 198? and 20??. cool If the date of release, for that system, is known, can that be Manually changed, or dose the MAME team do that? if manually, how is this done, what is the procedure?
Posted By: R. Belmont

Re: Question: changing years on systems release. - 07/27/20 03:19 PM

Submit a pull request that changes it on Github, ideally with a reliable reference to the year noted, like a flyer or something.
Posted By: That70sguy

Re: Question: changing years on systems release. - 07/28/20 01:36 PM

Thanx Mr. Belmont, but how do I submit a pull request on Github, what should I put it under? It's been a while since I have bee active on here, If there is anyone on this board that could volunteer help with this project, cool would much appreciate it, I'm only one person, I can't do this alone.
Posted By: Darkstar

Re: Question: changing years on systems release. - 07/28/20 05:56 PM

Please post any reference you have that relates to one of those "unknown" years here, people can assist you with the PR then. But as RB said, reliable references are absolutely required
Posted By: That70sguy

Re: Question: changing years on systems release. - 07/30/20 02:02 AM

I'm working on the systems in 197? 198? I have found some manuals for At&t 3B2/310, 3B2/400, 3B2/600 dated 1990, a separate Manual for 3B2/400 dated 1985. A possibility I might do 200? will look for flyers for these systems, if possible.
Posted By: That70sguy

Re: Question: changing years on systems release. - 09/10/20 12:19 PM

Here's an update: My use of resorce for a guide, are from Internet Archive of the earlyest adds and annocements (Press Relese), and VINTROPEDIA - Vintage Computer and Retro Console Price Guide

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3B2/310 launched on 1985 or before (possibly 1984)
VINTROPEDIA listed date is 1983

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3B2/400 launched on 1984 or before

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3B2/600 launched on 1987 or before
VINTROPEDIA listed date is 1983
Posted By: That70sguy

Re: Question: changing years on systems release. - 09/10/20 12:42 PM

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alphatronic P1 Launched on 1980 or before
Alphatroinc P1 P2 TA SYSTEMS 1979

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Alphatronic P2 launched on 1981 or before
VINTROPEDIA listed date 1980

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alphatronic P2U launched on 1984 or before

alphatronic P30 launched on 1984 or before
VINTROPEDIA listed date 1983
Posted By: That70sguy

Re: Question: changing years on systems release. - 09/12/20 01:01 AM

P.I.M.P.S. Colford I hesitated to write about the year this system was released, and hard to find any documents, manuals or flyers.
I looked up some of the info on Daves Old Computers - P.I.M.P.S., and sent emails to Dave, requesting Info, but no response.

HPIB as referenced Hewlett-Packard Interface Bus 1975

STD bus STD BUS Technical Manual 1979
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Earliest date 1979

IEEE-488 Earliest date 1975 - Wikipedia

For The RS-232 DCE-DCE Bridge that is generic (no Brand Name) also hard to find.

RS-232 (w/Brand Nanes)
RS-232-C 1978 Tandy

RS232 1981

Other dates 1980 - 1982

RS-232 (posable date 1978) hope this helps!!
Posted By: AJR

Re: Question: changing years on systems release. - 09/12/20 04:57 AM

The physical equivalents of the "DCE-DCE Bridge" probably predate 1978 by many years (RS-232 goes back to 1962), but they wouldn't be so much machines as connector cables.
Posted By: That70sguy

Re: Question: changing years on systems release. - 09/12/20 01:59 PM

Arcadia 2001 Clones

Intercord XL 2000 System VINTROPEDIA list Date 1979
predates Arcadia

Tchibo Tele-Fever
earliest Date 1980
VINTROPEDIA list Date 1986
Posted By: That70sguy

Re: Question: changing years on systems release. - 09/13/20 12:31 AM

Apple ][ clones

ASEM AM-100
Restauro ASEM AM64 (AM100?)
this Blog States that All chip datecode is around the end of 1984; ....So we can date this board around the first months of 1985.

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Elppa II Plus launched on 1984 or before
Vintropedia listed date 1983
Posted By: That70sguy

Re: Question: changing years on systems release. - 09/14/20 01:32 PM

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Davidge DSB-4/6 launched on 1983 or before

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Davidge DSB-4/6 launched on 1982

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Forward Technology FT-68M launched on 1981 or before

Forward Technology 68M Manual 1981

M980 brochure

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Futuredata 2301 Network Processor launched on 1981 or before
Posted By: That70sguy

Re: Question: changing years on systems release. - 09/14/20 02:46 PM

Golden China Tv Game

Case Golden china TV Game Centre v Nintendo Co 1992

CASE NO: 55/94. IN THE SUPREME COURT OF SOUTH AFRICA 1994
Golden China Tv Game (1992?)

Golden China Tv Games list
Golden China Tv Game Games

Famicom (Famiclone / Golden China / TV Games)
Some of these pirated games listed dated 1987 - 1991
(Earlest posible launch date 1987)
Posted By: That70sguy

Re: Question: changing years on systems release. - 09/17/20 02:18 PM

MSX 1 & 2 Pt1

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Goldstar GFC-1080 launched on 1985 or before

Goldstar GFC-1080A launched on 1985 or before

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Sony Hitbit Catalogue 1986
Sony HB-10 launched on 1985 or before
Vintropedia listed date 1983

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Sony HB-F500F launched on 1986 or before

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Victor/JVC HC-5 launched on 1984 or before
Vintropedia listed date 1983

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Victor/JVC HC-6 launched on late 1984
Vintropedia listed date 1983

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Victor/JVC HC-7 flyer, HC-7 launched on 1985

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Victor/JVC HC-90 launched on 1986 or before
Vintropedia listed date 1985

Daewoo CPC-88 MSX Resource Center dated 1984

Fenner FPC-900 MSX Resource Center dated 1986
Vintropedia listed date 1984
Posted By: That70sguy

Re: Question: changing years on systems release. - 09/18/20 01:40 AM

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CompuAdd 810 launch on 1989 or before

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Nixdorf 8810/25 announced 1985 launched on 1986 or late 1985

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Corona Data PPC-400 launched on 1985 or before

Manual for the Corona dated 1985

Corona PPC-21 dated 1984
Posted By: That70sguy

Re: Question: changing years on systems release. - 09/18/20 02:40 AM

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Vendex Headstart Plus launched on 1988 or before

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Schneider EURO XT launched on 1990 or before

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Schneider EURO PC II launched on 1990 or before
Vintropedia listed date 1988
Posted By: That70sguy

Re: Question: changing years on systems release. - 09/21/20 02:04 PM

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Olivetti M15 launched on 1987 or before
Vintropedia listed date 1987

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Sanyo MBC-16 launched on 1985 or before

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Sanyo MBC-16LT launched on 1989 or before

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Leading Edge Model D launched on 1985 or before
Vintropedia listed date 1985

Leading Edge Model M launched on 1985 or before
Posted By: That70sguy

Re: Question: changing years on systems release. - 09/21/20 09:48 PM

My use of resorce for theTexas Instruments Graphing Calculators for a guide, are from Datamath Texas Instruments site.

for the bootleg of TI-83 Plus, TI-84 Plus, TI-83 Plus Silver Edition and TI-84 Plus Silver Edition
The Great Graphing Calculator Ripoff blog dated 2019
stated: was first discussed back in 2015.

TI-73 Explorer (possibly bootleg) Datamath dated 2008 - 2009

TI-83PLUS (possibly bootleg) Datamath dated 2006 - 2008

TI-83PLUS SE the original press release dated 2002 (bootleg possibly 2004 or after)

TI-84PLUS (possibly bootleg) Datamath dated 2011

TI-84PLUS SE (possibly bootleg) Datamath dated 2011

TI-84PLUS CSE
TI-84 Plus C Silver Edition 4.0 Datamath dated 2013

TI-84 Plus C Silver Edition 4.2 Datamath dated 2014
Posted By: That70sguy

Re: Question: changing years on systems release. - 09/21/20 11:35 PM

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Micromint MPX-16 launched on 1983 or before

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Philips NMS 9100 launched on 1988 or before

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Olystar 20F launched on 1990 or before

Originally Posted by That70sguy

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Leading Edge Model D launched on 1985 or before
Vintropedia listed date 1985

Leading Edge Model M launched on 1985 or before


Correction for Leading Edge Model M
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Leading Edge Model M launched on 1986 or before
Posted By: That70sguy

Re: Question: changing years on systems release. - 09/28/20 01:34 AM

If I can catch this, before the next version of MAME/MESS. Here are some late minute PC Clones
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Kaypro PC launched on 1986 or before
Vintropedia listed date 1985

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Kyocera XT launched on 1986 or before

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Commodore PC-1 launched on 1987 or before
Vintropedia listed date 1987

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Eagle PC-2 launched on 1984 or before
Vintropedia listed date 1983
Posted By: That70sguy

Re: Question: changing years on systems release. - 09/28/20 03:01 AM

PC CLones Pt 2

PC-XT-Clones with DTK/ERSO-BIOS Images of BIOS ROM's for Certain XT Clones dated 1986 (posibly 1988)

Hyosung Topstar 88T Images of BIOS ROM's for Certain XT Clones dated 1987

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Z-150 Personal Computer brochures 1984

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Zenith Z-150 launched on 1984 or before

Z-160 Personal Computer brochures 1984

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Zenith Z-160 launched on 1984 or before
Vintropedia listed date 1982

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Collectible microcomputers listed Zenith Z-150, and Z-160 date 1984
Posted By: That70sguy

Re: Question: changing years on systems release. - 10/10/20 01:43 AM

Originally Posted by AJR
The physical equivalents of the "DCE-DCE Bridge" probably predate 1978 by many years (RS-232 goes back to 1962), but they wouldn't be so much machines as connector cables.


EIA RS-232-C (1969) "Interface Between Data Terminal Equipment and Data Communication Equipment Employing Serial Binary Data Interchange" - From Wikipedia

Other Possible dates:
RS-232a
westernElectric modems 1964

westernElectric modems 1972

RS-232b
DECcommEquipment RS-232b 1967

computerworld RS-232b 1969

RS-232c
byte magazine RS-232c 1977

RS-232 Modems or Modems:
The Bell 103A standard was introduced by AT&T in 1962.
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