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Posted By: R. Belmont Hmmm.... - 06/05/04 08:14 PM
Look what the cat dragged in . (And yes, the buyer is emulation-friendly).
Posted By: Richard Bannister Re: Hmmm.... - 06/05/04 09:07 PM
Excellent. Something to look forward to :-)
Posted By: Sixtoe Re: Hmmm.... - 06/06/04 01:24 AM
worst...joke...ever...

Six...
Posted By: MooglyGuy Re: Hmmm.... - 06/06/04 01:54 AM
¬°ES UNA TRAMPA!
Posted By: R. Belmont Re: Hmmm.... - 06/06/04 05:39 AM
It's got a prototype DSB-1 board that even that System16 has never heard of. That's gotta count for something (I mean, besides counting for "we can't support it in MAME because MPEG is patented from here to infinity").
Posted By: Jonathan Wilson Re: Hmmm.... - 06/06/04 06:00 AM
Does this mean sound in M1 for this game?
Plus, it means one more step towards 100% emulation of this in MAME (hopes for sound in the attract mode for 0.83u1 smile
Posted By: MooglyGuy Re: Hmmm.... - 06/06/04 08:28 AM
Quote:
Originally posted by Jonathan Wilson:
Does this mean sound in M1 for this game?
No, the mame-friendly guy who bought the game did so at the RB's request so as to hoard the boardset and make sure that the game's sound is never emulated due to a lack of a dump. :rolleyes:
Posted By: belegdol Re: Hmmm.... - 06/06/04 12:06 PM
So finally m1 will play John Williams music. Cool. Hope the same will happen with SWT sound board.
Posted By: Jonathan Wilson Re: Hmmm.... - 06/06/04 07:10 PM
Does this also mean sound in 0.82u1 (or whatever it happens to be)?

edit:
Didnt see the bit about it being MPEG and therefore not mameable.

/me hopes that anyone who was involved with the patenting of MPEG or with the laws that made such a stupid lame patent possible burns in hell for all eternity (wait, no, hell has just frozen over with the discovery of a dumpable modelx SW sound board so put them in something that would acutally subject them to eternal pain)
Posted By: Malice Re: Hmmm.... - 06/06/04 08:24 PM
The relevent patents should expire by 2013. Why not just make an unoffical DIFF patch in the mean time.
Posted By: chine79 Re: Hmmm.... - 06/06/04 10:55 PM
well, i hope Elsemi make a NebulaM1 smile
Posted By: MooglyGuy Re: Hmmm.... - 06/06/04 11:42 PM
Why in god's name would you think such an utterly baseless thought with absolutely no grounding in reality, especially when Model 1 is already emulated in MAME, and there's no chance in hell that ElSemi could emulate it an better than it already has been?
Posted By: Sixtoe Re: Hmmm.... - 06/06/04 11:58 PM
Quote:
Originally posted by Belegdol:
So finally m1 will play John Williams music. Cool. Hope the same will happen with SWT sound board.
Off the top of my head...

m1 esb
m1 jedi
m1 starwars
m1 stwr_103
m1 superman
m1 ij_l7
m1 indytemp
m1 jupk_513

0wned, kthnxbye, :bubble:

Six...
Posted By: R. Belmont Re: Hmmm.... - 06/07/04 12:07 AM
ElSemi has much better things to do, like make an OpenGL version of NebulaM2 so I can port it ;-)

And Six, nice job.
Posted By: Jonathan Wilson Re: Hmmm.... - 06/07/04 08:33 AM
Or just use the MPEG in mame anyway.

There are many projects out there using MPEG without a patent licence and I dont see them being sued by the MPEG people...
Posted By: R. Belmont Re: Hmmm.... - 06/07/04 09:21 AM
MAME is much higher profile than most projects, and we don't wish to provide anyone with a handy totally legal way to shut it down (given that there are now 2 court cases setting the precident that emulation itself is legal unfriendly companies will need to find alternate routes).
Posted By: Jonathan Wilson Re: Hmmm.... - 06/07/04 10:39 AM
heh, good point smile
Posted By: Turbo Re: Hmmm.... - 06/08/04 08:05 AM
Two court cases over emulation and the legalness of it? Don't lawyers have better things to do, maybe chase ambulances?
Posted By: Mr. Do Re: Hmmm.... - 06/14/04 10:17 AM
Maybe, it's just late, and I can't think straight, but are you saying that the sound board is MPEG?

Please be more cryptic smile
Posted By: R. Belmont Re: Hmmm.... - 06/14/04 07:50 PM
It has two sound boards: a regular Model 1 one (presumably for voices and sound effects) and an MPEG board (for music).
Posted By: Uruk Uru Re: Hmmm.... - 06/15/04 03:02 PM
And the legal controversy means that there will not be any dump of sound / voice & effects ever ?
Posted By: Sixtoe Re: Hmmm.... - 06/15/04 11:38 PM
Of course there will be a dump, emulation in mame is another matter though,

Six...
Posted By: R. Belmont Re: Hmmm.... - 06/15/04 11:49 PM
MAME will have sound but no music. M1 will have both.
Posted By: Sixtoe Re: Hmmm.... - 06/16/04 01:39 AM
M1 am teh s3x

Six...
Posted By: Malice Re: Hmmm.... - 06/16/04 02:49 AM
What about decompressing the music tracks, and then HLE the mpeg chip. If you leave the decompression out of the emulation there should be no patent problem.
Posted By: R. Belmont Re: Hmmm.... - 06/16/04 04:28 AM
Right, but then we expose ROM sites (or whoever puts up the kajillion megs of downloads) to RIAA problems.
Posted By: Malice Re: Hmmm.... - 06/16/04 04:41 AM
Your planning to support it in M1 right why not add an option to decompress the music tracks to files.
Posted By: R. Belmont Re: Hmmm.... - 06/16/04 05:35 AM
No. MAME is not going to support the music. End of discussion.
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