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#15113 08/08/06 02:39 PM
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Time Machine and Spaces are cool items. I'm not sure I'd use either of them right now, but they're good ideas.

Boot Camp should be out of Beta and into a stable release by then.

Everything else looks to be evolutionary improvements. Good advances, but nothing earth-shattering. I'm sure there'll be other things changing here not mentioned (GarageBand and other iApps come to mind).

Not sure I'd purchase this on its own. Boot Camp seems to be the one killer app here, but I'm not sure that it alone would be worth going up .1. Maybe


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Spaces looks like nothing more than a refined Expose. Time Machine could be useful, but does that apply to items you've permanently deleted in the trash? The rest, frankly, I could care less about. I'm sure the 64-bit and Core Animation stuff will make for some nice changes under the hood, but many of the new items for Dashboard, Mail, and iChat I'm not interested in.

I'll be waiting on this release for a while, unless of course tons of applications I currently use require ONLY 10.5 very quickly.

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I like the idea of Time Machine. It's basically CVS for normal users, but a bit more transparent. I'm not sure I'm in love with the interface for it. It's nice and "flashy" I just think there are probably better ways for me to find what I'm looking for.

Spaces is a godsend, I've been wanting Virtual Desktops built into the OS for a long time now and the way the implimented it is very nice.

The addition to Spotlight of being able to search networked computers is huge. This should have been in Tiger but I'm just glad it's coming, especially since I have a huge file server at home.

I could see how the new iChat could be really great for those who video conference, but I don't.

Core Annimation is great for me, as this is exactly what we're looking for here at work, but I imagine most people could care less.

Boot Camp is awesome.

One thing I wish Apple would do would be to make a full fledged HTML editor. They have Xcode and now DashCode which at least has a bit of this, but no real professional tool for web developers. Dreamweaver just doesn't cut it, and BBEdit is getting a bit long in the tooth.

I'll be getting Leopard at launch, but that's only because work pays for it.

Oh, and Steve did say they have a bunch of secrets of stuff in Leopard that they didn't want to show yet. So I assume there is more to be shown (most likely at MW in Jan).

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Initailly when i heard what was coming i was reasonably muted about it. One thing that i got used to with the windows world is things having a new and improved look and feel to them with each major release. You can say what you like about windows but MSDOS to Windows 95. Maybe not so much with 95 to 98, but there all the same, me to XP, always a major improvement in look and feel so i got a little dissapointed when it all just looked the same.

Then i went to the web site and took a look at the preview pages and to be honest, was still largely muted, wanting to find something to like but failing to get all that excited.

Then finally late last night and first thing this morning i viewed the actual QT movie of the keynote presentation and it was during the actual demo of the new things that really i started to like them. I think time machine is extremely good. Looks pretty slick, but yeah, maybe as vitaflo says there may be better ways to get the info (hey, maybe there will be other ways?)

I won't go through them all but my basic point is that if anyone is left a little "so what" about it, i'd say it's worth looking at the QT movie of the presentation before finally passing judgement.

I won't say there's stuff that i really can't live without but i'm certainly err'ing on the side of trying to afford a select membership now smile

Just need to develop something on the Mac that justifies the spend on the membership LOL!

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I'll most certainly upgrade to a new Mac when Leopard is released!

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Martin, you do know that on-line developer membership is free?

Of course, you won't get all the goodies as a select developer.

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Heh, oh yeah - i think i signed up for that in the first week of owning a Mac smile

What i meant really was that (presumably, Apple don't give too much away on the site) select membership is a bit like an MSDN membership (which i get) where for your $500 you get your ADC Select level and it gives you the Leopard Preview releases and stuff dropped through your door on CD?

Or do online WDC memberships get that anyway? I wasn't in the Mac world when Tiger was in the pipeline!

What is a kick in the nuts is that it didn't dawn on me to check it out in too much detail before i bought my iMac. Some time afterwards i thought to get on the phone to apple, only to find out that the discount i would have got on the 1500 i spent on my intel imac with my 1 hardware discount per year would have more or less (give or take a little bit) paid for the 1st year's WDC select membership. How gutted did i feel then!!

Still I'm now pleased that 6 months on my iMac still doesn't feel even vaguely dated. I wouldn't have got that in the PC world i don't think.

Anyway, had some uncertain news (at best) on the job front yesterday which has actually given me the kick up the backside i've needed for a long time to sit down and learn some Mac and Cocoa. So, here i am sitting writing an OpenGL screen saver smile

All good fun (if a little off-topic!).

All i can say about ObjC though is :-s

I got to about page 60 of the proper Apple Guide / Book and was so baffled that i googled for tutorials. Now it's starting to fall into place a bit what the book was waffling on about laugh

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I just installed Tiger wink


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