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Userfriendliness of MESS #4211 09/10/04 02:49 PM
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Hello everybody,

I will take the task upon me to make MESS more user friendly by first doing the next things:

- create a MSI installer for Mess
- redesign the UI to make it more look like VPC or VMWARE

how about that?


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Re: Userfriendliness of MESS #4212 09/10/04 03:21 PM
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i don't see how those things could make mess more friendly, but it's your time so use it as you like...

Re: Userfriendliness of MESS #4213 09/10/04 07:38 PM
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What is your background? Are you a programmer or a die hard user? Most beginnings users do not understand how MESS works...


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Re: Userfriendliness of MESS #4214 09/10/04 08:10 PM
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Kootjekip, good luck with your project. I'd imagine that the MSI wouldn't be that difficult. I've actually considererd throwing together a NSIS installer together myself. I'd imagine that either task could be done in <1 hour or so.

As for the UI, that will likely be a bit more difficult; I've favored heading towards a VMware style UI myself as well. It will be a long journey to get there, but in any case if you have technical questions, feel free to ask.

Re: Userfriendliness of MESS #4215 09/11/04 07:04 AM
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sorry, my point was that major problem of mess is more the fact that few people are able to start programs and games after starting emulation of a system, than to start emulation itself...

probably it would be really useful a project (as said in another thread) for a datfile which explain how to use single systems (but it's a huge work...)

anyway good work and sorry if i seemed rough

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etabeta, what you want is also possible trough a more advanced UI which makes it possible to make costum dat files


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Re: Userfriendliness of MESS #4217 09/11/04 07:02 PM
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to bletch, msi isn't difficult at all but a ****load of work because of the large number of files mess uses...


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Re: Userfriendliness of MESS #4218 09/12/04 03:48 AM
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eta: Hobie is working on merging sysinfo.dat information with Wikipedia, so that the dat that ultimately gets distributed comes from Wikipedia with some extra MESS specific info.

Re: Userfriendliness of MESS #4219 09/12/04 07:01 AM
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Tok, if you want MESS to be as user-friendly as I think you do, I recommend you don't try to do this project all by yourself. You have a *lot* of computers and a lot of hardware to cover - Types of floppy disks, joysticks, paddles, everything. Many computers/consoles have system-specific input devices, i.e. those input devices aren't made for other systems, or work quite differently on other machines.

I also suggest that the text used in the added user-friendliness is put in a separate file, rather than in the MESS.EXE file. This will reduce the compile time, make the EXE smaller, and also make adding/editing the GUI text less troublesome.

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ehm? text is not the problem, the way the UI works is the problem, many uers don't want text they only want a working system


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