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Re: -rs232 -bitb baud/protocol CLI options? 115k? [Re: datajerk] #94929 07/04/14 01:49 AM
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Latest SVN hooks up the from-the-schematics cycle-accurate Woz floppy controller that we previously landed on the Apple II (and which should allow us to boot properly dumped copy-protected originals eventually). There may be some regressions in terms of disks that booted previously now not working; let me know if any turn up.

Re: -rs232 -bitb baud/protocol CLI options? 115k? [Re: datajerk] #95132 07/16/14 10:53 PM
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If you have the time can you please look at:

http://asciiexpress.net/files/AppleIII/a3gettingorganized.dsk
http://asciiexpress.net/files/AppleIII/a3sysutilsimulation.dsk

Start with booting a3getting... and swap in a3sys.... when prompted. The output should look like:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vk6X5ZtmAWA

Thanks again.

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Re: -rs232 -bitb baud/protocol CLI options? 115k? [Re: datajerk] #95133 07/17/14 12:58 AM
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Thanks, I'll take a look smile

ETA: fascinating, I've seen similar corruption with the "Apple Presents Apple ///" disk, but not on anything else. Whoever made these training disks apparently had a real technical manual with secret bits.

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Re: -rs232 -bitb baud/protocol CLI options? 115k? [Re: datajerk] #95134 07/17/14 03:39 AM
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One thing I might add here: The corruption differs depending on whether the machine is set to have 512K or 256K, and won't boot at all if set to 128K. Not sure if that can provide a hint. The font looks perhaps marginally less garbled at the 256K memory setting, but still garbled and unreadable.

Re: -rs232 -bitb baud/protocol CLI options? 115k? [Re: datajerk] #95135 07/17/14 03:45 AM
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That's quite interesting. Does it boot on a real machine that only has 128K?

Re: -rs232 -bitb baud/protocol CLI options? 115k? [Re: datajerk] #95136 07/17/14 03:54 AM
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Interesting question. I think I have one 128K machine, but I haven't tried to start it up so I'm not sure if it's working, but if I have a chance I'll try it out and report back. The Apple /// on my desk (that the video was taken with) is 256K.

Re: That Apple /// thread (was -bitb 119200 etc) [Re: datajerk] #95337 08/05/14 03:47 AM
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Thanks to the driver disk from apple2scans.net, I've enabled ThunderClock Plus support in the Apple /// driver (which is not all that useful since MESS always has the MM58167 present, but it works on h/w so it should work in MESS). The .CLOCK driver on that disk assumes slot 2 by default; -sl2 thclock and boot the disk and it'll show the current time.

I'm still looking into those other problems; I have a vague idea what's wrong and I'm probably going to need someone to run some test programs on a real /// at some point.

Re: That Apple /// thread (was -bitb 119200 etc) [Re: R. Belmont] #95649 08/24/14 09:15 PM
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Originally Posted By R. Belmont
-sl2 thclock and boot the disk and it'll show the current time

I just checked out the latest SVN and tested this. Yes it'll show the current time, and will continue to show the time, however at an accelerated pace.

Re: That Apple /// thread (was -bitb 119200 etc) [Re: datajerk] #95666 08/25/14 09:40 PM
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I just heard the new podcast episode where they talked to you. I wasn't aware the II emulation was broken (when I started with the apple3 driver it was literally the only thing that worked), and MESS actually doesn't respect the /A2EMU signal right now because I haven't figured out everything it does yet. I'll look into at least fixing the text page issues though.

Of course, MESS also has very good Apple II emulation with dozens of cards available smile

ETA: color text mode is now disabled in A2 emulation mode on the ///. Any hints on how real h/w behaves in emulation mode with an RGB color monitor would be appreciated smile

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Re: That Apple /// thread (was -bitb 119200 etc) [Re: R. Belmont] #95671 08/26/14 02:43 PM
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Originally Posted By R. Belmont
I just heard the new podcast episode where they talked to you. I wasn't aware the II emulation was broken (when I started with the apple3 driver it was literally the only thing that worked), and MESS actually doesn't respect the /A2EMU signal right now because I haven't figured out everything it does yet. I'll look into at least fixing the text page issues though.

I should have reported it here, but figured if you wanted II emulation, then you'd be better off with native II, vs. II in a ///. Of course if you get the Titan //e card emulated, that'd be very interesting and fun to play with.

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Of course, MESS also has very good Apple II emulation with dozens of cards available smile

Exactly.

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ETA: color text mode is now disabled in A2 emulation mode on the ///. Any hints on how real h/w behaves in emulation mode with an RGB color monitor would be appreciated smile

Tested. Works. I'll have to test a game or something. I have no idea about the color, perhaps someone on the Apple /// FB group does.

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