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Re: Siemens PC-D [Re: rfka01] #101008
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So I get this written to a port:
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SIEMENS 80186 SINIX

COPYRIGHT (c) 1984 BY SIEMENS AG

Size of free memory = 830 Kbyte

Computername: sie001, Version: 1.2, Release: 25.Feb.1987


Unfortunately it's the wrong port and worse it's the video controller config port. At least it's booting.

Re: Siemens PC-D [Re: rfka01] #101016
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Wow! Great progress, thanks!


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Maybe the MMU remaps the I/O space in addition to memory?

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So this is the best I can do for now. It's not remapping because it starts in the bootloader before the MMU is even enabled. My only guess is that the graphics board on the PC-X is different from the one in the PC-D. If you look at the pictures that rfka01 posted of the PC-X the graphics board has an 8031 which the PC-D has an 8047. It also has an extra ROM chip. Maybe the 8031 presents a terminal like interface and can write directly to the VRAM and the extra ROM is a character ROM instead of RAM (the tech manual says this is an option).

Re: Siemens PC-D [Re: rfka01] #101225
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It's alive smile ... that's the main thing! Once again, thanks ... chances are good I'll get BIOS files from a real PC-X some time during autumn, I am sure your work now is a great basis for that.


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I'd be surprised if the BIOS ROMs are different as the PC-D ones have the MMU tests. The graphics ROMs are the ones of real interest for me.

Re: Siemens PC-D [Re: rfka01] #101361
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Axel, who I've been in contact with about the PC-X, documented the disassembly of his machine and put the ROMs online:

http://www.geekdot.com/siemens-pc-x/

Thanks to another contributor!


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Awesome!

Re: Siemens PC-D [Re: rfka01] #101533
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Got it.

Need to figure out how the attributes select the line drawing characters.

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Ooh, nice smile

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