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Hello, was just curious if someone was working on fixing the sound emulation problems with Spy Hunter the arcade?

I posted about it on mametesters for anyone interested:

http://mametesters.org/view.php?id=5452

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Please don't crosspost.
An informative reaction from a MAMEdev to your question is here: http://www.mameworld.info/ubbthreads/sho...part=1&vc=1

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I crossposted because the informative reaction sucked.

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What else do you expect then?


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Biting the hand that feeds you is generally a bad idea.

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Yeah, and while I seem to get downvoted every time I say this, we only have a very small core team, the same devs are reading here as are reading MW, as are reading Mametesters etc.

You got a very comprehensive reply all things considered, just because it wasn't the one you wanted doesn't mean you should cross-post it everywhere.

I've noticed this, along with a huge amount of disrespect for the team in general is massively on the increase again. While not the case here I think some of it might be because we've given users an inch by doing a few things they want and now they think they rule the project. I dislike having to go into bitchy mode with users, but after a number of generally good years I feel like we're being pushed back in that direction.

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It is a MAJOR disrespect to the game to leave it broken forever…. why is this so hard to fix? What if Arcade 1UP repros the game all F’d up…. I know, YOU DON’T CARE…

Thanks a lot…

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Just accept that you're wrong, holy shit.

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MAME is supposed to be a celebration of arcade games, your treatment of a big time hit arcade such as SPY HUNTER, is an absolute INSULT!!

Multicades have insulted the game over and over again by using your stupid code…

I just don’t understand it, I CAN totally blame you, you created this monster, don’t blame me, I am doing a service to everyone that is in love with the game…. get it straight!!

How dare YOU?

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Take your medication you fucking lunatic.

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What the fuck am I looking at here?

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Originally Posted by Haze
I've noticed this, along with a huge amount of disrespect for the team in general is massively on the increase again
The main reason, at least here on this forum, is that there don't seem to be any active moderators here anymore, so everyone can come in and insult everyone else without fear of consequences.

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you're quoting me from 5 years ago, because this guy decided to come along and bump his threads everywhere he crossposted them before, despite getting a comprehensive answer at the time.

maybe if he invested the same amount of effort into understanding how things worked he could actually fix it instead... most people developing MAME these days are regular users.

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Indeed, sorry, I didn't check the date properly.

My point still stands though, recently lots of posts here have been allowed which would, 10 years a go or so, have resulted in an immediate ban and/or deletion.

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Just report the post to moderation.

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It's one thing to cross-post in user forums with this kind of stuff, but he's also unloaded on MT (now deleted it seems). If it deserves a ban anywhere, it's on the bug tracker—that's a tool, not a place for venting.

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Originally Posted by spyhunter
It is a MAJOR disrespect to the game to leave it broken forever…. why is this so hard to fix? What if Arcade 1UP repros the game all F’d up…. I know, YOU DON’T CARE…

YOU have had 5.5 years to figure this out yourself. What have YOU been doing with YOUR time? It is a MAJOR disrespect to the game / developers / community to KNOW that it is broken and to be so SURE that it is an EASY fix to not take the time YOURSELF and figure it out.

Oh wait... I know... YOU DON'T CARE

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Originally Posted by spyhunter
It is a MAJOR disrespect to the game to leave it broken forever…. why is this so hard to fix? What if Arcade 1UP repros the game all F’d up…. I know, YOU DON’T CARE…
Major disrespect to the game? Like, in your mind the game is a sacred deity and it’s blasphemy to emulate it imperfectly? You need to have a serious think about your values.

As for Arcade 1UP, they’ll do whatever it is they do, we don’t control them. They might have a stab at emulating it better, but they’d probably just screw it up somehow no matter how well MAME emulates it.

Originally Posted by spyhunter
MAME is supposed to be a celebration of arcade games, your treatment of a big time hit arcade such as SPY HUNTER, is an absolute INSULT!!

Multicades have insulted the game over and over again by using your stupid code…
MAME is not a celebration of arcade games. MAME is a living documentation project to ensure digital culture is preserved. We’ve succeeded in ensuring that the Spy Hunter ROMs are documented and archived. Be thankful that you can play the original game at all, and not some poor-quality reproduction.

Once again, we have nothing to do with the people selling multi-game arcade cabinets. If they think old versions of MAME are good enough for their purposes, they’ll use them. It seems that no matter how much we improve emulation, they’ll stick with old versions anyway. Even if we were to improve Spy Hunter sound, they’d keep using old versions without the fixes.

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I just don’t understand it, I CAN totally blame you, you created this monster, don’t blame me, I am doing a service to everyone that is in love with the game…. get it straight!!

How dare YOU?
So would you prefer we don’t emulate the game at all, or for the ROMs to fall out of circulation? If MAME’s emulation isn’t good enough for you, you’re free to purchase and maintain a Spy Hunter cabinet. You haven’t paid us for our time, we have no obligations to you. Also, if you’re “in love with the game” to the point that you feel a need to post rants like this, you need to re-think your outlook.

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Originally Posted by spyhunter
MAME is supposed to be a celebration of arcade games, your treatment of a big time hit arcade such as SPY HUNTER, is an absolute INSULT!!

Multicades have insulted the game over and over again by using your stupid code…

I just don’t understand it, I CAN totally blame you, you created this monster, don’t blame me, I am doing a service to everyone that is in love with the game…. get it straight!!

How dare YOU?
Obvious troll is obvious even five years later. How dare you steal Greta Thunberg's meme.

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