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Re: HP Integral PC (1985) WIP [Re: shattered] #107869
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Here's how it is supposed to look like:

Scherm by Hp-fix, on Flickr

vaxbarn had pics of newer hp-ux version at http://vaxbarn.com/index.php/collection/18-m68/55-hp-integral-pc, but they are missing now.

Re: HP Integral PC (1985) WIP [Re: shattered] #107870
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I had forgotten about so many of the weird ways that companies tried to put a friendly face on UNIX.

This machine was one of the more creative ones.

But I really have to wonder, was HP really trying to sell this thing as say an HP-85/86 on rocket fuel?

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The shell they've used (PAM) is apparently a port from HP 150 -- http://www.hpmuseum.net/pdf/ComputerNews_1985_Jan15_37pages_OCR.pdf p.15.

Service manual for that one is online (at http://www.hpmuseum.net/exhibit.php?hwdoc=43), but technical manual is not (but CHM has a copy -- http://www.computerhistory.org/collections/catalog/102650462).

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...and thanks to Al the Magic Fairy, it's now online smile

bitsavers:/pdf/hp/hp150/45625-90001_HP-150_Technical_Manual_May84.pdf


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I've said it before, Al's better than Santa smile

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vaxbarn's IPC page is back (http://vaxbarn.com/index.php/collection-old/269-hp-ipc)



and area fills are working now:


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Niiice!

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Hooked up the floppy, but IPC doesn't yet boot from sector-level images on coho.org.

On-disk format is not documented; apparently, it uses 256-byte sectors on 77 data tracks, and (maybe) 128-byte sectors on 'privileged' track 79 (see http://www.coho.org/~pete/downloads/IPC/burst/Languages/IPC_C_Language_Preprocessor/include/sys/sony_sys.h).

ImageDisk images would be quite useful to clear this up.

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The ipc utils source probably would help there as well.

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Originally Posted By shattered
Hooked up the floppy, but IPC doesn't yet boot from sector-level images on coho.org.

On-disk format is not documented; apparently, it uses 256-byte sectors on 77 data tracks, and (maybe) 128-byte sectors on 'privileged' track 79 (see http://www.coho.org/~pete/downloads/IPC/burst/Languages/IPC_C_Language_Preprocessor/include/sys/sony_sys.h).

ImageDisk images would be quite useful to clear this up.


that's not what it says here
http://www.coho.org/~pete/IPC/images.html

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