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Originally Posted by incog
Im fine with dumps and skeletons, means we know it's secured.



I bet these are the same hw as the radica skateboarding

These are XaxiX hardware, which is more advanced.

You can tell because both show the XaviX logo on startup (which I'm guessing was a legal requirement to use their development kits / hardware or something, as it's always the same)

XaviX is probably closer to a SNES, there's a lot more going on in the games with multiple scrolling planes, a lot more animations etc. It's a more powerful system.

I'm not ruling out there being multiple generations of XaviX hardware either (because the quality of the games seems to differ greatly) but none of the ones I've emulated so far have been XaviX, and it seems very unlikely Skateboarder will be. Feature-wise Skaterboarder looks closest to Golden Tee, single x/y scrolling plane with sprites above it.

The non-functioning Taito Nostalgia driver in MAME is the only XaviX dump we have (if it's even complete) and it's not plain 6502, it's currently hooked up to the SNES cpu, although I don't know if anybody verified that to be correct, or if it was just closer.

*edit* Peter points out that there are 3 generations of XaviX

the original XaviX which is a custom 6502 @ 21 Mhz
SuperXaviX, which is a custom 65816 @ 43 MHz
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XaviX-2 which is some '98Mhz RISC processor'

So I guess the Taito Nostalgia one we have dumped is 'Super XaviX' I guess, because it seems closest to the 65816. The other Snowboarder one there might be the original XaviX instead because it looks kinda basic. None of the ones we've tackled so far have had XaviX logos tho.

http://test.shinsedai.co.jp/sitemap_e.html
https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/XaviX
https://www.giantbomb.com/xavixport/3045-132/

my gut feeling is the ones we have been looking at might be 'pre-XaviX', developed by the same people, before they settled on a standard (but I have no proof of this)

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Originally Posted by incog
I also sent the ROM board from an Apple eMate 300, somebody might be interested in adding it, though I don't think we have a newton driver.
Here's the eMate ROM: www.seanriddle.com/ematev22.bin

I didn't remove the chips; I just connected wires to the board itself, so I read it out as 32-bit. The first 2 bytes are from the HI chip, and the next 2 from the LO chip.

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I've made undumped lists for some of the more recent things:

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Originally Posted by incog
I've made undumped lists for some of the more recent things:

when you say 'original games' on the menacer, you do realise it's just the same as the 6-in-1 pack that the original menacer shipped with? it isn't clear from your wording if you think they're new games, or not 'original' could mean new productions.

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I didnt notice it was the pack-in, thanks

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Today's arrivals:

Tronica PG-205, "Pin Ball":
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"Hero and Princess" by Fucked-If-I-Know Technologies (the entire rectangle on the back where the manufacturer and copyright info would go is blank):
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"Car Racing", another one by Fucked-If-I-Know Technologies:

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"Deputy Den" by VTech (VTL), a vertical three-screen game kindly contributed by u-man on these forums / MAMEWorld:

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"Pac-Man" (2001) by MGA Entertainment, licensed by Namco:

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Radica "Bass Fishin'":

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And lastly, Tronica MK-33, "Monkey Kingdom", a horizontal 3-screen game:

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The ROM daughterboards for the two Leapster 2s had slightly different silkscreening: 20055+003+1004 with a datecode of 0619 and 20055+003+1006 with a datecode of 0652. I dumped both of them and they are quite a bit different; there's a lot less empty space in the 1006 version. The latest date I found in the 1004 file is Aug 30 2005, and in the 1006 file is Oct 21 2005.

Edit: are these Leapster 2s or Leapsters? The datacodes make me think they are too early for Leapster 2s.

www.seanriddle.com/leapster2_1004.bin

www.seanriddle.com/leapster2_1006.bin

I also cleaned up some other dies looking for part numbers. There's no info or logo on the Sensible Soccer die. The Grandstand Game Player just has the part # 1C5738 and ID of 1645, no company name or logo. Skateboarder is a Sunplus QL8041C. The Cube World Block Bash small die is a Winbond SA5623 and the big die is a Sunplus QL6045.

Skannerz has a Winbond SA5621. Radica 20Q has a Sunplus PL6413.

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Originally Posted by seanriddle
The ROM daughterboards for the two Leapster 2s had slightly different silkscreening: 20055+003+1004 with a datecode of 0619 and 20055+003+1006 with a datecode of 0652. I dumped both of them and they are quite a bit different; there's a lot less empty space in the 1006 version. The latest date I found in the 1004 file is Aug 30 2005, and in the 1006 file is Oct 21 2005.

Edit: are these Leapster 2s or Leapsters? The datacodes make me think they are too early for Leapster 2s.

www.seanriddle.com/leapster2_1004.bin

www.seanriddle.com/leapster2_1006.bin

I also cleaned up some other dies looking for part numbers. There's no info or logo on the Sensible Soccer die. The Grandstand Game Player just has the part # 1C5738 and ID of 1645, no company name or logo. Skateboarder is a Sunplus QL8041C. The Cube World Block Bash small die is a Winbond SA5623 and the big die is a Sunplus QL6045.

Skannerz has a Winbond SA5621. Radica 20Q has a Sunplus PL6413.

Unclear, the Leapsters we have in MAME are

152-10346.Leapster BaseROM Universal.v1.5 WXP-L0002.Sep 04 2003 10:46:47
152-11594.LeapsterTv Baserom Universal.v2.1 W2K-0266.Apr 13 2006 16:36:08
while the 2 you've dumped are
152-11435.Leapster BaseROM, German.v2.1 V.L102401.Oct 21 2005 18:53:59
152-11452.Leapster BaseROM UK.v2.1 LGW2K-L0003.Aug 30 2005 16:01:46

they all seem to be Arcompact baed (ArcTangent 5.1) and follow the same code execution.

At the very least the TV one we have identifies as a 'TV' unit, while these don't specifically say Leapster 2 outside of the 'v2.1' strings. I don't know if there are any real differences?

Skateboarder is going to be interesting to see the ROM for then, to see if this Sunplus is an evolution / rebrand of the Elan ones, or actually something else entirely.

btw, for reference, the Radica Tetris and Arcade Classics you dumped were both PAL, right? While Golden Tee was NTSC?

you'll probably end up with a spare Skateboarder at some point due to a miscommunication with Peter, who asked if it was dumped, not realising you had it but hadn't dumped it, although who knows, maybe there are multiple software revisions on them too. Is this Skateboarder an NTSC or PAL?

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Tetris and Arcade were PAL, Golden Tee and Skateboarder NTSC.

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actually having looked up what was added in the Leapster 2 I think these are just 'version 2' of the firmware, not from Leapster 2 units.

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