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I'm new to this forum and if this topic doesn't belong here please let me know.

With the death of Steve Jobs it got me curious about the first computer that started it all, the Apple-1. Since Ive been using MAME for many years as my arcade emulator, it just made sense to use MESS for my computer emulation needs. Mainly I wanted to use MESS to see how the Apple-1 computer operated. I noticed MESS provides cassette emulation for the Apple-1 using .wav audio format. This is a unique feature, and one that makes sense because it allows software programs to be loaded into the Apple-1 with relative ease as apposed to physically typing out several thousand lines of code. What I quickly found out however .wav files for MESS Apple-1 are nearly nonexistent!

The only solution to this problem was simple. I had to learn how to make my own .wav files. I did just that. I have successfully converted Apple-1 hex dumps (binary code) into perfectly working .wav files fully compatible for the MESS Apple-1 emulator. The binary codes I used are freely distributed, so I dont believe Im infringing on any copyright laws.

Here are some of the Apple-1 .wav programs and games I currently have:

Apple 1 Basic
Apple Star Trek (1976)
StarTrek2003
Blackjack
Bowling
Buzzword
Craps
Deal or No Deal
Hamurabi
HiLo
Life
Lunar Lander
Mastermind
Microchess
Monitor
Slots
Wari
WordCross

I would like to contribute to MESS by providing my Apple-1 .wav files so others can use them. How do I go about doing this?

Here is what a few of the Apple-1 games look like in MESS with a green color overlay and HLSL enabled. Personally I think MESS looks better than OpenEmulator with the graphic options. Yes the games are very primitive but this was 1976.

Microchess by Peter Jennings
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/42/microchess.png/

Deal or No Deal
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/259/dealornodeal.png/

Apple Star Trek (1976)
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/840/applestartrek.png/

Slots
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/88/slotsw.png/

I do have Microchess for download if anyone is brave enough to learn how to use the Apple-1 emulator MESS provides.

Link: http://www.applefritter.com/content/microchesswav

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Contact using the emails on
http://www.mess.org/contacts.php

Are these recorded at 44100 or 48000 or 96000hz? It may affect the recoverability of data from the wavefiles.

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Thanks for the info.

My wave files are recorded at: 48000

If I need to change something, I'll be more than happy to try. I do know for a fact my .wav files as they are now, work perfect in MESS.

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That should be fine, then.

EDIT: Peter Jennings' microchess (see his site at http://www.benlo.com/microchess/ ) exists for many other systems as well; I think it may have started out for the KIM-1, and commodore even made a dedicated standalone chess system licensed from peter in 1978 called the Commodore ChessMate which is INSANELY RARE; it uses two mask rom MIOT/RRIOT chips inside and a 6502, and is a wanted dump.
Peter Jennings is a really cool guy in general, he hunted down some ancient source code for one of his programs when I asked him.


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Interesting, but primitive.

It's the first time I've seen the Apple 1 do anything. As you can guess, my knowledge of it is zero.

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I'm pretty sure lunar lander was loading in MESS at some point and I managed to play it.

Anyway, it would be really great to see these other programs too, since I find these old systems (not only the Apple 1, but also the TRS-80 Model 1 and the CBM PET) very fascinating despite their age smile

Thanks for the contribution!

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Yes I think you're right Microchess did start out for the KIM-1. I chose to use this particular version of Microchess by Peter Jennings because it seemed to work the best.

Peter Jennings seems to be very knowledgeable.





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I didn't know much about it either until fairly recently. What I found most interesting is how programs were loaded in the Apple-1 from a cassette tape!

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Originally Posted By etabeta78
I'm pretty sure lunar lander was loading in MESS at some point and I managed to play it.

Anyway, it would be really great to see these other programs too, since I find these old systems (not only the Apple 1, but also the TRS-80 Model 1 and the CBM PET) very fascinating despite their age smile

Thanks for the contribution!


Thank you and your welcome! I'm glad you find these old Apple-1 programs fascinating. I will definitely be adding many more in the near future for download! smile

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I have a lunar.wav here, but no idea how to load it.
Size is 3,347,944 bytes.

Also I have basic.bin (no idea how to use it), and basic.mp3 (i can convert it to wav - but again, how do i load it?).

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