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Re: Hardware Sounds [Re: Pernod] #92178 01/05/14 08:43 PM
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We probably shouldn't treat all floppy/tape drives as being a speaker, but there should probably be some way of the devices producing sounds.

I'm not sure samples of the real hardware is the way to go either, it needs to be able to cope with generating all sounds that the original could make and that isn't always possible to capture that in a sample. I don't know about the BBC, but playing music with drives stepper motors was reasonably common.

Re: Hardware Sounds [Re: Firehawke] #92179 01/05/14 08:45 PM
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Don't forget the relay click!

It's an interesting feature, not 100% necessary, but useful in some cases and it's quite nice as it gives an experience closer to the original system.

Re: Hardware Sounds [Re: smf] #92180 01/05/14 09:14 PM
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Originally Posted By smf
I don't know about the BBC, but playing music with drives stepper motors was reasonably common.

I know there's BBC stuff that uses the cassette relay click as percussion.

Both BeebEm and B-em use samples to good effect. What's the alternative to samples as the devices don't have sound generators?

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Re: Hardware Sounds [Re: Pernod] #92181 01/05/14 09:52 PM
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Acoustic model of electro-mechanical components? Fairly complex, but achievable.

Re: Hardware Sounds [Re: Pernod] #92196 01/06/14 09:11 PM
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The devices do have "sound generators", otherwise they wouldn't make sound. They don't have speakers or sample players though.

Re: Hardware Sounds [Re: Pernod] #92197 01/06/14 09:35 PM
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I hope this doesn't imply emulating the noise of fans at full speed on 90s workstations, nor of those *loud* SCSI hard disks from the 90s...

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Originally Posted By asiga
I hope this doesn't imply emulating the noise of fans at full speed on 90s workstations, nor of those *loud* SCSI hard disks from the 90s...


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Re: Hardware Sounds [Re: Pernod] #92199 01/06/14 10:19 PM
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haha I have a pair of full-height 3.5" 500MB Micropolis SCSI2 hard disks that make a huge racket. I don't know if they were that loud originally or it's worn bearings. funny thing is, these things would beat UDMA33 drives in any benchmark besides linear read.

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Originally Posted By asiga
I hope this doesn't imply emulating the noise of fans at full speed on 90s workstations, nor of those *loud* SCSI hard disks from the 90s...


Fans and hard drives were noisy after the turn of the century too. I did a firmware update of a rack mounted server on my desk when it turned all the fans on, fortunately I couldn't do anything until it was finished so I left the room. The people still working had more of a problem.

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Re: Hardware Sounds [Re: Pernod] #92206 01/07/14 04:13 PM
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Funny that this topic was brought up here, just in parallel when I mentioned it on the devs mailing list.

Yes, I am also interested in drive sounds, and also for the same mentioned reasons: emulation experience on one side, but also as feedback on the current system activities on the other side.

I already have prepared sound samples of the stepper and the drive motor for both 3.5 and 5.25 floppies, and maybe in short term we'll have a first attempt on that.

So count it as one of my near-future goals (matter of weeks).

Michael

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