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Great work, this is an epic achievement and to think a few years ago no one (or almost no one) thought it would even be possible to dump and emulate Game & Watch games and that simulators would be the best we could do and now fast forward a few years the whole collection has been preserved and is fully playable. It's exactly because of stuff like this that MAME is fantastic. Thanks to everyone involved on this.

But, don't we still need this one grin:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/124200576154

The ROM is probably the same as YM-105, but would be nice to have artwork for it.


The artwork is already an option in the New Wide Screen Super Mario Bros:

[Linked Image from i.ibb.co]

Ah didn't notice that, pretty cool thanks!

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Originally Posted by TeamE
@hal3000: is your next target the remaininger TIGER ELECTRONICS lcd games?

Personally I'd like to see more R-Zone games being preserved, they are getting a lot more expensive these days, but Sean already has a bunch of them stacked on his neverending dumping queue.

Tronica games would be nice too and I believe most of them should use similar cpus to game & watch not sure about the 3 screen games though.

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Originally Posted by ssj
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@hal3000: is your next target the remaininger TIGER ELECTRONICS lcd games?

Personally I'd like to see more R-Zone games being preserved, they are getting a lot more expensive these days, but Sean already has a bunch of them stacked on his neverending dumping queue.

Tronica games would be nice too and I believe most of them should use similar cpus to game & watch not sure about the 3 screen games though.


I've only got equipment and knowledge to dump SM5x chips packaged in a standard way with accessible pins so I'm limited to dumping these types of games. Some Tronica games has already been preserved in MAME and I'm happy to work on adding more. Also, I've got a number of handheld displays sent from Sean for various games which I plan to start working on.

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Stupid question here, but do we have a list of the LCD games companies?

From where I see it, it must be quite extensive.

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I've heard that the GCE Game Time watches (Game Time, Arcade Time and Sports Time) use the same chip as the Nintendo G&W's (I assume the simpler, small ones). If that's true, how hard would it be to get those dumped? (Aside from finding them) I assume it's a blob, being a watch, is it simple enough to get to those?

https://www.handheldmuseum.com/GCE/GameTime.htm

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well find one.

if it's a chip (of the expected type), easy

if it's a glob (of that chip), hope all relevant pins are bonded out

otherwise it becomes an issue.

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Being that it's a watch, I can almost guarantee it's a blob, and only the necessary pins to make it operational are likely to be bonded out.

It would have to be decapped/deglobbed and the ROM dumped manually... I'm just not sure how easy that is for Sean (or someone else) to do and be fairly certain it'll work...

Pretty sure I have an extra Game Time laying around somewhere, if I can find it I'll open up and see what we are working with...

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Originally Posted by Haze
Originally Posted by Just Desserts
Originally Posted by AJR
The supposedly bugfixed purple version of Judge doesn't seem to have been preserved yet.


Correct. Likewise, a bugfixed alternate version of (I think) Chef is also not preserved.

The good news is that the bugfixed version of Judge is in a different case color, and so should be relatively easy to track down if anyone is willing to put in the time. The bad news is that the bugfixed version of Chef requires opening the case and reading the marking on the chip package, which I doubt any seller would be willing to do.


I was aware of Judge and Helmet, what's meant to be fixed in Chef?

For Helmet, I thought we had the fixed version (or am I mistaken) so low serial number Japanese originals are probably going to have the buggy version.


I think Helmet is what JD was thinking of. And correct... we have the fixed version today... the only way to tell 100% is by checking inside the case; the pcb for the one we need will be marked CN-07, instead of CN-17 (bugfix).

And just to expand a bit on what hap mentioned:

Judge... just need to find a purple one.

Egg... the SVG on this one is really poor, plus the ROM dump needs to be verified, and to make sure the background overlay is indeed the same as Mickey Mouse.

Table-Top Cement Factory... need the one with the "not Queen" startup music.



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The Bassmate Computer by Kelko has now been preserved in MAME smile

The unit was OEM produced by Nintendo and is very similar to the G&W Dual Screen units.

The Bassmate Computer is based on the Sharp SM511.

This is a screenshot from the game:
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The unit needs to display overlays to make any sense though smile

Thanks to Mr. Do for providing the game!

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Artwork is up. Telko was the company who worked with Nintendo to create this unit. They also had licensing deals with Probe 2000 and KMV so there are alternate views with that branding in there as well.

[Linked Image from i.ibb.co]

Game & Watch Artwork (including Bassmate)

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