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Originally Posted by DarthMarino
Judge is easy to track down. There are always a few on ebay. They just tend to be a bit pricey for what it is. There are Cement Factory's out there but they are even more money and would require the seller to figure out which song plays at the start. Helmet would be very tough to find the correct one. Even getting the glitch to work is fairly complicated and I doubt any seller would want to open their unit to find out which they have.

Maybe if someone was going to try, going for a low serial number on Helmet?
There's a couple in the 2 million range on eBay (and a lot in the 4 - 10 million range, so 2m seems low...) That's assuming they are numbered sequentially and 2 million is even low enough to get the version we want. (And one odd one with a V0062134 serial. Only one out of all of them on eBay with a letter like that...)

Do we know the serial of the one that was dumped?

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The serial number of the dumped Helmet unit is 09652153. Tracking down a unit with a low serial number is a good idea.

Have been contacting sellers here in Sweden selling Mario's Cement Factory tabletop units and so far all of them (maybe 5) has been the same version as the one already dumped.

As DarthMarino says, Judge is available on eBay but a bit pricey.

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(Not working) Gakken Frogger LSI Tabletop Arcade Game Mainboard As-is https://www.ebay.com/itm/274686508489?hash=item3ff4977dc9:g:kRoAAOSw1JhgLIYq If anyone want to buy it and then send it in for dump. Vans is different than the one dump for MAME. Color also different in some parts of the game. Hope the rom still good. But the LEDs and colors still can be use on MAME. Too cheap to pass up.


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MCU label serial is 700P (Coleco version is 701P), so yes, even though on Youtube the gameplay and sounds seem identical to the Coleco version, it is probably a different program revision.

The VFD differences are very small. Not just the vans, also see the top half, frog 'death' sprite at the edges.

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There is some information here about the Helmet glitch (including how to do it) and its lists the 2nd edition of Helmet units starting with the SN 131xxxxx though that doesn't line up with the unit Henrik dumped.

https://web.archive.org/web/20090511074031/http://www.geocities.com/gwfaq/index2.html

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Originally Posted by hap
MCU label serial is 700P (Coleco version is 701P), so yes, even though on Youtube the gameplay and sounds seem identical to the Coleco version, it is probably a different program revision.

The VFD differences are very small. Not just the vans, also see the top half, frog 'death' sprite at the edges.

Is the 700P version not dumped? I thought I sent one of those a while back for dumping...
I'll check today and see if I still have one...

I think one of the play differences is that on Coleco you die when your frog leaves the edge when on the logs or turtles, on this version you die when you hit the edge. So you have one more chance to move when your sprite is on the very last one on the Coleco version.

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Yeah, the Gakken version is not dumped.

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Funny they didn't put gators and female frog on these games. Not even a bee. Still fun without those. lol


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Ahh, all I could find was the VFD itself, and the joystick... I guess I had a broken one and got rid of the rest of it.
I snagged the board from eBay. At least if the VFD is bad on his I have a spare for getting a good picture of, and might even be able to get it working. smile

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Yeah it so cheap. smile


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